Ok first and foremost....you will not get sick using opiates after you used subs (its just a waste of perfectly good drugs and money) HOWEVER...you CAN get sick using subs after you have used opiates...if you shoot a bunch of dope and then take the sub before the dope is out of your system you WILL go into percipitated WDs....which are not fun...but only last a couple of hours....the best thing to do is to use the subs for exactly what they are made for...as a substitute to NOT use opiates!!! Suboxone (bupe and naloxone) is an opiate itself...but because it does not have a very "euphoric" effect (unless taken by an opiate nieve individual)...and because the method of administration isn't as enjoyable as some other drugs (like IV or intranasal)...it is easier to kick. Ive been on subs for a few months now...and used to take them to keep from getting sick when I was using (for years). I am very experienced with all sorts of opiates and blockers. And just to let everyone here know...you CAN safely shoot subs (but I do not recomend it at all EVER)...the naloxone is heavier than bupe...and because of that when you let a half of a sub (never more than a half) sit in about 70 units of water (don't stir too much only lightly mix and let sit for 60 seconds)...the naloxone will settle on the bottem (a white creamy, milky, oily film) and the bupe will float to the top. Stick a cotton on the spike and touch it to the top of your solution. Draw from the top of the solution ONLY never touching the cotton to the spoon. Angle the spoon as you draw it up and leave most of the orange chalk and milky substance behind on spoon. You will notice all the milky substance left behind. That is naloxone. Repeat this process to filter again (on clean spoon) and you will notice less milky substance on spoon. That is the solution you want. And that is almost pure bupe. You will get a very powerful buzz but NO rush. Also, it doesnt even kick in until 20 mins after IV use. Ive heard that bupe is the WORST thing to IV PERIOD. Don't know why and if someone DOES know PLEASE tell me. But ppl have lost theyre arms and flesh due to missing a bupe shot. Please be careful whether your using opiates or suboxone and I wish anyone and everyone luck in theyre journey to sobriety or journey to find a dope man. You guys be safe. Toodles ~MDZ of RedZonE--google me baby
Yes, you can shoot up suboxone. I've been prescribed it for a year (two 8mg pills a day) and I've been shooting it for 9 months now. I absolutely hated the taste and it made me throw up every time I did. Then I tried snorting it, and that was horrific because the burn lasted for 20 minutes. The first time I tried shooting it, I had a huge rush and felt a bit sick, but that was also because I took oxycontin the day before I tried using the suboxone in this way. To answer your second question, it is possible to get high on opiates while on suboxone. But I must say it takes a lot of mg's of opiates to get high, even after not taking suboxone for three days (this may differ for other people; it varies from person to person). While the suboxone was in my system I tried getting high and it took 150mg of opiates to give me the slightest high. I'm sure you're wondering how I shoot up the suboxone... 1. I have a cutter/grinder all in one. First I cut two 8mg pills in half, so I have four halves. I put one of the four halves in the grinder and grind it. 2. Next I put the crushed pill into a spoon (prefer a thinner spoon so the process doesn't take as long). 3. Then I take a 1cc long point 28 or 30 gauge needle (depends which is cheapest), and draw water into the needle. Then put the water from the needle into the spoon with the suboxone. Wouldn't put more than 70units of water otherwise you end up with a lot of liquid in the spoon, and the mixture won't all fit into the needle. 4. I take the orange cap of the needle and stir the mixture so the suboxone dissolves into the water. 5. Then I take a lighter and heat the bottom of the spoon until the mixture starts bubbling or until it isn't cloudy anymore. 6. I then take a small piece of cotton and roll it into a ball (you could also use a cigarette filter, but I prefer cotton). I put the cotton into the spoon with the mixture. 7. I put the needle in the cotton and draw up the mixture. Be careful not to get any cotton into the needle, otherwise you end up with cotton fever (not so fun). 8. Then I let it cool for a minute or two, because if you do it right away, it will definitely burn your vein. 9. Next, tie your arm. I normally use a shoe lace with a certain knot in it to make it easier when you're done, to take off. Find a vein, and pull the needle back to make sure that blood is coming into the needle, and if there isn't blood rushing into the needle, you are NOT in the vein. I pull back multiple times while I'm doing this to make sure that I'm still in the vein. 10. I repeat this with the other three pieces of the suboxone. I read 9 months ago before starting, that when you're done drawing the mixture into the needle, there is a thin sticky layer of suboxone on the bottom of the spoon and that is the part that shouldn't be shot up. At first I tried to be careful about that, but ended up realizing its all the same. So it doesn't really matter whether you draw up what's left on the spoon or not because it's the same as what is in the needle already. If you start using suboxone this way, you will understand better. The only downside I've had with this way of taking my medication is that it gets harder to find veins. After using the veins in the middle of my arm, I had to resort to using the veins in my hands and wrists. Gave the middle of my arms time to rest, and now I'm able to use those veins again. To me, this is just another way of taking my medication. I don't consider it abusing a drug or medication. I'm sure many people have different opinions about this, and that's okay. Just trying to show that shooting up suboxone isn't as bad as everyone thinks it is. Hope this helps.
I know this is months later, but in case you are still looking for a different answer or point of view.. Yes you can shoot suboxone. It is not good for you, obviously. You should never shoot pills. There are tons of fillers that can damage your veins, not to mention with Suboxone you are also shooting up that gross orange flavour and who knows what that does. When I was arrested they asked if I was shooting my Subs, to which I said no obviously, but they told me that's it's really not good for you, which is also what everyone else will tell you. Nobody usually explains exactly why it's so bad or what might happen though. It basically comes down to if you really care that much. Personally, I shoot suboxone occasionally. I have been prescribed it for a year. I stopped taking them as prescribed because the flavour turned gagging and nauseating. For me shooting Subs, if you're used to it - like taking as prescribed, will not have any effect. I split half an 8 mg pill and do half (8mg pills have less of the N substance than the 2mg.. And 4mg isn't too much) Also I've heard, and experienced (like doing all 8mg), that you can't shoot too much or the naloxone will kick in and block the effect. I can't get dope or anything so suboxone is "my" only hope. You "can" do opiates but they will most likely have absolutely no effect because subs contain two opiate blockers, the naloxone and something else. The other is an opiate, but it's an opiate antagonist at the same time so it you get too much it will block the effects. Tthe other possibility if you take opiates on suboxone is that you will just get sick, SO I Have heard, I'd rather not waste my money or risk going into immediate w/d when you could just wait a week to do it and feel the full effects you know? So this is all my experience and what I've heard, if you still needed any info. Remember: Everyone's body reacts differently. Also if any of my information is incorrect please tell me. Take care
The answer is YES. You can shoot Suboxen. I do it on a daily basis.You wont get a rush like on your typical opiate like morphine.But its a slow building body buzz. Get the Nodes and all that good stuff.
Cold Shake Process. 1st .Bust pill or your dose down in to a powder 2nd . Add water 3rd. Stir the the powder and liquid until you a have an orange luquid 4th . You will need cotton to filter. "Cigg Filter" don't use all just a small peice. 5th.Insert needle into cotton and pull back your dose. 6th. Check needle to make sure no air is in the syringe 7. Tie it back and slam it.
This answer is for "likewaters" comments pertaining to Suboxone. Suboxone comes in 2,4,and 8mg tablets. I Personally am prescribed the 8mg but I want to clarify something for the readers reading your comment "likewaters". Suboxone contains 2 substances-Buprenorphine and Naloxone. The ratio for the 8mg are as follows-8mg Buprenorphine and 2mg Naloxone. Now "likewater" stated Suboxone has two opiate blockers. If that was the case how come they get you high or keep you well and the answer is the Buprenorphine. Now Buprenorphine is a unique opiate it possesses agonist & antagonist qualities. Now Naloxone is also an opiate in fact its related structurally to the strong opiate agonist Oxymorphone except that its an antagonist opiate or what we would call an opiate blocker. For example heroin is a full agonist opiate just like morphine, oxycodone, oxymorphone, Fentanyl. Etc. Anyway the point I wanted to make was that "likewaters" opinion was flawed and that the Buprenorphine in Suboxone has agonist qualities. When I say agonist it means that the opiate can get you high. I hope my insight has brought some clarity to this forum. God bless!
Yes you can shoot it . You will not get a rush . If you have done any opiates within 24 hrs. You will have a slight withdrawl 4 about 5 mins but it isn't too bad. Then you will start to feel it kicking in. Shooting a 2 mg will feel about the same as eating a 8 mg. If you have no opiates in your system you will not have a withdrawl from shooting it. As far as health side effects from it I don't know. I have been doing it since they first came out and I'm still pretty healthy. I don't recomend you try it. It is defeating the purpose. S.D.H.
I don't know who the guy above me is but what I do know is that he's a fraud cause I was addicted to bootin up "butes"(that's what we call it in my town) nd the only time it hurts is when you miss nd also it doesn't give you automatic withdraws! So in other words, yes you can shoot up suboxone, but I DEFINITELY don't recomend it.
Naloxone will NOT overpower buprenorphine in case of overdose its proven ineffective.(reference to wikipedia page on suboxone 3-5 pps down). Anything is injectable if you can dissolve it in water. This does not mean its a good idea, after all if you can maintain on 20 bucks a day injecting H. Then what is the difference in injecting Suboxone? This is the wrong way to go about your recovery. Even so, injection may increase bioavailability of buprenorphine increasing the amount one gets from an expensive overpriced but effective opiate. Intramuscular injection I believe to be the safest, keeping binders and nasty things from going strait to your blood stream. Always filter with a qu-tip top or micron filter. Injecting this way gives the peak around 6 hours after injection.
You can shoot up just about anything. That doesn't mean that you're not putting yourself at serious risk. If you wanted to you could fill up a syringe of strict 9 and probably get high before you collapse and die. If you're trying to get high then just go out and buy heroin or oxycodone. Now if you're tired of using opiates but have trouble getting off of them because of the withdrawls then take suboxone the way you are supposed to. a lot of the time doctors will prescribe 16-32mg a day and the average person doesn't even need that to feel better. If it only takes 2 or 4 mgs to feel better then just take that. The less you do the better because there are going to be withdrawls coming off of the suboxone. The less you take and the quicker you taper yourself down the less withdrawls you have and the better your chances at success. Shooting seems pointless because the withdrawls are going to be just as bad as heroin. So why not just stick to heroin?
Yes you can. I was curious myself and read all these other forums about it. I heard people saying how dangerous it is and that you go into automatic withdrawl but you really don't. Everyone was saying you don't get high from it but suboxone when placed under your tongue a small amount goes into your blood stream and thats how you feel it. So if you injected it wouldent you get the full effect? I think so. I tried it and it is very extreme and the most powerful way to take it no doubt
24 hours after my last suboxone use I could get high - however I'm very skinny and my metabolism is ridiculous. Everyone's bodies react completely differently however, the chemistry is never the same. I've shot up heroin only 4-5 hours after taking suboxone and I felt a tiny rush and a mild high, but most of it was obviously blocked. I just want to say that I have never been thrown into any kind of withdrawal using after taking suboxone..which doesn't mean go try it. I recommend at least waiting 37 hours before your next use. As far as shooting suboxone I've never done it but I would like to know how to break it down.
ok so there is alit of people on here thinking its safe to shoot suboxone. Well ive been taking it for three years now and have shot it every day now i have no veins to hit anymore arms hands legs feet gone and i got notts in my veins dont know what they are but i got a good idea of what it is and at first when i started shooting them it didnt hurt now it burns like crazy when i can do it and for getting high yeah you can and you do get sick if you do other stuff with it well not every one cause some people dint but i wouldnt try it not worth the sickness and i know for me it lasted two days i was sick not fun at all so if you want to shoot subs do tex not as bad for you and always be careful have a great day felow junkies ;p
I hope you are talking about Suboxone tablets which are made up of buprenorphine and naloxone hydrochloride dihydrate. Suboxone is not meant for injecting; it is not secure to inject a pill which is not meant for it. The binders and fillers present in it may cause serious complications. So be careful
I have a friend who has been shooting up Suboxones for almost a year and he likes it more than dope, I'm not saying that it is good or safe but he shoots up tiny pieces and says he loves it. I don't know but be careful!
It is not advisable to inject suboxone. Suboxon tablets are available for dissolving them under the tongue. But you should always be careful and consult a doctor before you take any step because abuse or misuse of medications while you are on suboxone can cause death!
I have shot my subs every day for over a year. I can't stand the taste, and the truth is they do give one a nice, mellow opiate buzz. I usually do a half. Here's the thing. In a half a sub there is 1mg of naloxone. For a heavy heroin user (and I was), there is no way 1mg of Narcan is enough to curb an overdose. 7-8mg's is more likely. And it's not really enough to knock the sub off your receptors either. Every so often I will get a bit of a flush from what I assume is the naloxone, but it goes away in a few minutes. Naloxone only stays in your system for about 45 minutes anyway. I mix them in room temp water, pull through a cotton and go to town. It hurts to miss, but not too much worse than missing with anything else. The danger, btw, from shooting pills has nothing to do with the drug, but as someone mentioned before, the fillers. Pills are mostly talcum, and this can build up in your lungs, heart and even your brain over time, especially in the very small blood vessels. So you need to filter the hell out of the stuff, or long term use may end up killing you. I agree with Kate about running out of veins. I'm on my hands and wrists too. I have found that a smaller guage needle will hit those small veins easier, but you have to go very slow, because those blow out easily. Anyway, again like Kate, this is just the way I choose to take my meds. Not interested in value judgments one way or the other.
To break it down for you, yes suboxone is injectable. I have seen it done and basically they took off a few pieces from an 8 mg tablet, put it in a spoon, put a tiny bit of water to dissolve it, got their cotton, and sucked it up with a needle. Scary stuff, but it worked for them.
Look, don't even go thru all the crap and steps to shoot a "sub"... If your lookin to catch a buzz off a "sub".. Crush it and SNORT it.. I was on them for over a year. I know from experience that taking them under the tongue can be bitter and nausating.. So do urself a favor and don't hassel shooting them.. Get some heroin if you want to shoot something.. Crush and SNORT!!!
You can do other opiods while on suboxone, but, it would be a waste of your time and money! It takes probably three times the normal amount that you're used to doin, just to feel an effect. But, as long as the sub is out of your system, (witch can take up to 72hrs) you can get your normal "opiod" tollerance back. As for shooting it up; it's not worth the effort it takes to purify the BUPE in it. And if your Prescibed to it, and your worried about if you can shoot it up as referring to legalness. Ask yourself, (am I prescribed needle's?) other-wise it's yours take it how you want to!!
I have been iv subs for over two years now,as long as your careful and CLEAN ie alcohol swabs, clean cotton, new rigs,as long as they are your rigs you can get a couple of shots before they become dull.I can't say that I really get a high from them,but when I'm off them for a few days they def put me in a good mood!FYI cold water works best! Be very careful not to miss your mark because they hurt like hell for about a week! Also with cold water be careful about air bubbles! Those can end your fun as well as your life.
Don't know yet about shooting, but snorting gets me high, one secret I can share to get more high snorting it is when you snort it try not to swallow or breath with your nose when the suboxone is in your nostril, and suggest to pass out before the suboxone leaves your nostril you wake up high, one way that helps to keep the suboxone longer in your nostril is to lay on the opposite side of your nose canal, also this is kinda hard but when the suboxone runs down don't swallow!.
Crazy kids..1. You can do whatever you choose.2. IVing pills= not such a good idea, as pills are full of fillers= bad for your veins.3. IF you eat, snort or inject suboxone when you have other opiates in your system, you will experience "precipitated withdrawls", and once PWs start, theres little you can do but "ride it out"4. Naloxone is intended to block the opiates AND bupernorphine, so , good luck on getting high.
To everyone saying you can't shoot subs. WRONG. Its nothing really to it if you have been taking them for some time. But on and off I do feel a good buzz off them (more so Subutex). I mostly do it because I hate the taste of those orange bastards and I guess to satisfy my shooting up craving. I feel that some good benzos and a shot works best. As I seem to nod pretty nice sometime! Another thing I IV subs is coming down off some crack, meth, etc. Seems to level me out nicely and let me get some rest! As mentioned they do hurt like a bitch when missed and shouldnt be for everyone. It can be done safely though so don't worry! I never do more then a half a pill at a time though. Up to about 8mg a day IV.
Buprenorphine can be shot up most definitly, you need subutex that does not have naloxone in it because its the "blocker part" of the orange suboxone suboxone does in fact get you high I don't know many people that do not get high off it taken normally unless you were once an extreme dope addict. Not an good idea ither way very dangerous to shoot synthetic opiates, if you are perscribed subs it's for the sole purpose of stopping and becomming sober. STOP looking for ways to get high it's either keep going downhill abusing drugs or use the suboxone for its purpose to QUIT doing opiates going back and forthe is also very dangerous and can cause serious health conditions down the road most common is heart related problems, if you are prescribed suboxone use it sublingual and stop trying to get high
There will be no more pill suboxone for sale, only if recieved illegally production as now been the sublingual films which can not be snorted or shot it can be fatal, do not take chances
Ive seen people inject it but I'm not sure exactly how you go about doing it because I don't shoot drugs and when I saw it they already had it in liquid form...I'm guessing they just dissolved it in water
Never shoot up Suboxone. It is very dangerous b/c of the Naloxone in it. The Naloxone will burn your veins and is put in Suboxone for the sole purpose of preventing people from shooting it. Also, Suboxone is an opiate blocker, not an opiate. If you do opiates while on Suboxone, you will either not feel it at all or will put yourself into withdrawals. Suboxone does not get you high..if you're looking to get high and planning to do opiates, you shouldn't take Suboxone.
Can You Shoot Up Suboxone? NO What If You Are Prescribed To Suboxone But You Shoot It Up? then you will get very SICK!!!!! Can You Do Other Opiates While On Suboxone? No because if you do heroine will on suboxone you will become very sick & they will take you to the hospital!!!!